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AW: What must one do to avoid Gmail's retarded non-spam filtering?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (=?Windows-1252?Q?Andr=E9_G=F6rmer?)
Wed Sep 29 15:54:15 2010

From: =?Windows-1252?Q?Andr=E9_G=F6rmer?= <a.goermer@ecircle.com>
To: "John R. Levine" <johnl@iecc.com>, Erik L <erik_list@caneris.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 21:53:55 +0200
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1009291547040.18797@joyce.lan>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

Hello,

I would also recommend to implement the list unsubscribe header, because go=
ogle is supporting that kind of user feedback to senders.

http://www.list-unsubscribe.com/

Regards,
Andr=E9

Andr=E9 G=F6rmer
Senior Deliverability Manager


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Von: John R. Levine [mailto:johnl@iecc.com]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 29. September 2010 21:49
An: Erik L
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Betreff: Re: What must one do to avoid Gmail's retarded non-spam filtering?

> As I mentioned in my follow-up post, the issue at this point is that the
> domain has been blacklisted.

Most peculiar.  Since gmail is driven by algorithms, that would suggest
that a lot of your recipients are reporting your mail as spam, which I can
assure you people do, no matter how legitimate and opt-in it is.

Do you have feedback loops set up?  Google doesn't offer one, but AOL,
Yahoo, Hotmail, and other large ISPs do, which will let you figure out
what sorts of mail people are complaining about so you can perhaps send
less of it.

R's,
John



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