[130176] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: AS11296 -- Hijacked?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Nathan Eisenberg)
Wed Sep 29 15:05:36 2010
From: Nathan Eisenberg <nathan@atlasnetworks.us>
To: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 19:05:12 +0000
In-Reply-To: <5A6D953473350C4B9995546AFE9939EE0A52B014@RWC-EX1.corp.seven.com>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
> Maybe you didn't recognize the original poster, but I did, and I would ta=
ke
> what he had to say at least seriously enough to have a look. His followu=
p
> mail, while not giving people the information they wanted (as if it reall=
y
> matters) did mention that the upstream appears to have cut them off. Tha=
t
> is a pretty good indication that *something* was going on there.
>=20
> I don't believe it is anyone's job here to conform to the expectations of
> anyone else aside from general list etiquette and some level of sanity. =
He
> put the information out, it is up to the reader in how they weight it. I=
don't
> understand your continued banging on the issue. All he did was put
> information out there. He doesn't need to meet your criteria, you are fr=
ee to
> apply that as you will in the privacy of your own cubicle.
George,
Again - appealing to personal authority is a fallacy. It carries no logica=
l weight who the poster is, and has no place in a decision making process o=
f such magnitude.
No one has to conform to any standard, and I don't think I suggested otherw=
ise. What I did suggest is what would be required in such an email to conv=
ince me personally to take any action. The very point of posting a hijacki=
ng notification is to convince people to take action, so it's only reasonab=
le to make such a notification as thorough and supported as possible. And =
it is in the best interests of the process to review communications issues=
afterwards - if the OP is genuinely interested in helping the internet by =
letting us know when an AS has been hijacked, then he should certainly appr=
eciate any feedback on how to make those notifications more effective.
I'm also not sure what you mean by 'continued banging on the issue'. This =
is my first email in this thread...
Nathan
