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RE: IPv4 squatters on the move again?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Tero Toikkanen)
Tue Sep 7 06:35:21 2010

From: Tero Toikkanen <Tero.Toikkanen@nebula.fi>
To: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 10:34:46 +0000
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Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

Yeah, it's pretty obvious from the start. I'd like to see the VoIP-system w=
ith those requirements...

I just think these cases should be made public to at least slow these guys =
down, just in case someone else is less cluefull :) If these really happen =
all the time in the big world, this list may not be the right place, but ju=
st something Google can find. This is not first case we have come across re=
quests like this, but still not so common in the Finnish hosting scene.

With Kind Regards,
--
Tero Toikkanen
Nebula Oy Internet Services

> Kind of funny how they intend to do enough 'WholesaleVoIP" on a 10Mbps
> connection/1GB RAM  for a /20 :)
>=20
> That is a giveaway in itself.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tero Toikkanen <Tero.Toikkanen@nebula.fi>
> Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 08:24:05
> To: NANOG list<nanog@nanog.org>
> Subject: IPv4 squatters on the move again?
>=20
> Anyone hear of the SundownGroup?
>=20
> On Thursday we received an interesting RFQ from them and suspect their
> intentions for requesting an IP assignment isn't exactly what they state.=
 We
> have already turned them down, but thought others might be interested in
> their activities as well. RIPE NCC has also been notified of this.
>=20
> In brief they wanted to buy colo form us: "P4 single core @ 2 Ghz, 1 GB R=
AM,
> 60 GB HD, Linux CentOS 5x.x, 10 Mbps bandwidth. A single /21 or /20 net b=
lock
> of IP Adresses"
>=20
> Their reason for requesting such a large address block was "As we are
> currently launching our WholesaleVOIP operation we are in desperate need =
of
> this IP space as part of our ARIN process we will need these ranges SWIPd=
 to
> us and we will in turn renumber with ARIN and return the netblocks to you=
 as
> soon as ours are allocated and routed."
>=20
> Interesting tidbits about the company we and the networking community hav=
e
> already found out:
>=20
> Compare http://sundowngroup.com/ and http://www.edgecast.com/ (Edgecast h=
as
> been notified).
>=20
> The contact address is the same as National University Nevada (nu.edu):
>=20
> Sundown Capital Management LLC
> 2850 Horizon Ridge Parkway
> Henderson, Nevada 89052
> United States of America
>=20
> They also have virtually no Internet presence
> (http://www.google.com/search?q=3D%22Sundown+Capital+Management%22)
> The first result shows them as a franchicing company with contact address=
 in
> California: http://www.scribd.com/doc/14385124/QFA-Unit-Final-PDF-File-of=
-
> 32709-FDD-With-Exhibits
>=20
> I'd say this case is pretty obvious...
>=20
> With Kind Regards,
> --
> Tero Toikkanen
> Nebula Oy Internet Services



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