[128960] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: IPv6 PMTUD and OS-X
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jeroen Massar)
Sat Aug 21 05:42:35 2010
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 11:42:04 +0200
From: Jeroen Massar <jeroen@unfix.org>
To: bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com
In-Reply-To: <20100821071857.GC1654@vacation.karoshi.com.>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On 2010-08-21 09:18, bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 11:34:23PM +0200, Jeroen Massar wrote:
>> On 2010-08-20 23:27, Franck Martin wrote:
>>> I'm trying to debug a pesky PMTUD issue with IPv6 on Mac OS-X 10.6.
>>>
>>> It happens only from home, on wireless, when connected to a mac aiport
>>> that does an automatic tunnel (teredo) to IPv6 backbone.
>>
>> Welcome to the great world of Teredo/6to4 where the endpoints/relays of
>> the tunnel are anycasted in both IPv4 and IPv6 and thus can be quite
>> difficult to debug, it can be done but requires quite a lot of vision in
>> the network on both IPv4 and which will be generally near impossible.
>>
>>> There are IPv6 web site that I cannot browse until I lower the MTU to
>> 1400.
>>
>> Why don't you just do 1280 which is the default?
>>
>> Do also note that you have two levels of PMTU, the IPv6 one and the IPv4
>> one. If you configure your MTU of the tunnel incorrectly compared to the
>> relay that you are using you will not see the PMTU's coming through
>> either or they might not accept your large packets.
>>
>> Both MTUs can be broken due to folks filtering ICMP which is generally a
>> bad thing to do.
>>
>> Greets,
>> Jeroen
>
>
> or - if you are tunneled more than once, you might be ultra conservative
> and drop your MTU to 1220 - that should weed out the edge cases where even 1280
> is too large.
1220? I am pretty sure the minimal IPv6 MTU is 1280 and that below it
fragmentation should be handled by the medium that transports packets
smaller than that.... Can you enlighten me Bill? :)
Greets,
Jeroen