[128945] in North American Network Operators' Group

home help back first fref pref prev next nref lref last post

Re: Should routers send redirects by default?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ricky Beam)
Fri Aug 20 19:49:55 2010

To: "Christopher Morrow" <christopher.morrow@gmail.com>, "nanog list"
	<nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 19:49:43 -0400
From: "Ricky Beam" <jfbeam@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimbJ4g7DigSBeToJR33NPF4CYrHzAgamTwPQd=k@mail.gmail.com>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 13:20:58 -0400, Christopher Morrow  
<christopher.morrow@gmail.com> wrote:
> Polling a little bit here, there's an active discussion going on
> 6man@ietf about whether or not v6 routers should:
>   o be required to implement ip redirect functions (icmpv6 redirect)
>   o be sending these by default
...
> In ipv4 there's a relatively widely used practice of disabling ip
> redirects.

I think it's almost universally disabled (by default) everywhere in IPv4  
purely for security (traffic interception.)  In a perfectly run network,  
redirects should never be necessary, so I'd think IPv6 should avoid going  
down that road again. (support OPTIONAL, never enabled by default.) [It's  
another insecure mistake IPv6 doesn't need to repeat.]

As I recall from long long ago, Cisco IOS would deal with traffic  
differently depending on redirects... with redirects enabled, a redirect  
was sent and the packet dropped; with redirects disabled, the router  
hairpined the packets.  I honestly don't know what today's versions do  
because I've never checked -- A can ping B, I move on.  I turn redirects  
off on *outside* interfaces.  Inside (trustable) interfaces vary -- I  
don't go out of my way to disable them.

--Ricky


home help back first fref pref prev next nref lref last post