[128762] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: BCP38 exceptions for RFC1918 space
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Adam Armstrong)
Sun Aug 15 19:35:15 2010
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 00:35:09 +0100
From: Adam Armstrong <lists@memetic.org>
To: Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>, nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <87y6c7erlx.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On 15/08/2010 18:02, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Valdis Kletnieks:
>
>> On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 18:46:49 +0200, Florian Weimer said:
>>
>>>> And that connection that's trying to use PMTU got established across the
>>>> commodity internet, how, exactly? ;)
>>>
>>> ICMP "fragmentation needed, but DF set" messages carry the a addresses
>>> of intermediate routers which generate them (potentially in response
>>> to MTU drops) as source addresses, not the IP addresses of the peers
>>> in a connection.
>>
>> If any long-haul carriers are originating ICMP packets for other people's
>> consumption from 1918 addresses rather than addresses in their address space,
>> it's time to name-n-shame so the rest of us can vote with our feet and
>> checkbooks. There's no excuse for that in this day and age.
>
> What does "originating" mean? Creating the packets? Or forwarding
> them?
My bus originates in the town of bananaville, but before it finally
originates at mangoburgh, it originates through 5 other towns.
Wow, that would be a confusing language to speak. ;)
The origin is the beginning point of something, where it is created.
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/origin
I'll let you off as you're German and German doesn't use any words with
related etymology :>
Though really, if you know BGP you should understand the term 'origin'.
adam.
