[128732] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Lightly used IP addresses
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Curran)
Sun Aug 15 08:36:29 2010
From: John Curran <jcurran@arin.net>
To: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 08:36:10 -0400
In-Reply-To: <m2ocd4ktd2.wl%randy@psg.com>
Cc: North American Network Operators Group <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Aug 15, 2010, at 7:28 AM, Randy Bush wrote:
> oh. was section nine of the lrsa done by the policy process?
No, although it's been presented at multiple Public Policy and Member
meetings, and has enjoying extensive discussion on the mailing lists.
(It's been extensively revised based on the feedback received - see
http://www.mail-archive.com/arin-announce@arin.net/msg00105.html)
(later followup from Randy - consolidated response)
> the fact is that the lrsa does require the legacy holder to sign away
> rights. and if you assert that they have no special/different rights,
> then why is that clause there?
Section 9 is present in the LRSA because it matches the RSA (so that=20
all address holders are the same basic terms to the extent practical) =20
As noted earlier, the LRSA provides specific contractual rights including=20
precluding ARIN from reducing the services provided for legacy address=20
space, but a legacy holder trying to theorize property rights is working=20
under a set of assumptions likely incompatible with ARIN's mission and=20
articles of incorporation that call for actual management and stewardship
of Internet number resources. As noted, the other RIRs have similar=20
language, as do the IETF BCP RFCs in this space. The earlier you go back,
the clearer intent of the community on this point, as were Jon's actions=20
as the IANA. While this may not be convenient for folks today who wish=20
otherwise, it does not change reality. I've suggested the RIR processes=20
or the IETF as a way of bringing about the change you want based on=20
community consensus (this is the Internet style of addressing it); feel=20
free to add your choice of multinational organizations or governments if=20
you want to more choices with different decision processes.
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
>> p.s. If you want to continue to discuss, can we shortly move this to PPM=
L=20
>=20
> no thanks. =20
p.p.s. My apologies to the list (for my having to respond to direct=20
queries and thus continue the thread here)
