[128721] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Lightly used IP addresses
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Conrad)
Sun Aug 15 01:20:15 2010
From: David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org>
In-Reply-To: <A22922AA-21FD-4345-B476-0A0ABF4D2EFC@delong.com>
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 22:20:00 -0700
To: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
Cc: North American Network Operators Group <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
Owen,
On Aug 14, 2010, at 8:40 AM, Owen DeLong wrote:
> Let's clarify the definition of abuse in this context. We are not =
talking about people who use their IPs to abuse the network. We are =
talking about resource recipients who use their allocations or =
assignments in contravention to the policies under which they received =
them (and thus contrary to the RSA which they signed when they received =
them).
The challenge ARIN (and to a lesser extent, the other RIRs) faces is =
that in a very short time, we're going to have a system in which there =
will be folks barred from entering a market because they signed an RSA =
while at the same time, there will be others who will act without this =
restriction.
I honestly don't see how this system will be stable and instability =
breeds all sorts of things (some perhaps positive, most probably =
negative). When resources were plentiful this dichotomy could be mostly =
ignored. Resources are soon not to be plentiful.
It has been depressing to watch participants in ARIN (in particular) =
suggest all will be well if people would just sign away their rights via =
an LRSA, move to IPv6 overnight, abide by increasingly Byzantine rules, =
accept that folks were always under ARIN's policies and they just didn't =
know it, etc. Pragmatically speaking, it seems the most likely to be =
successful way of maintaining stability with the impending resource =
exhaustion state is to give up pretenses of being a regulatory agency =
and concentrate on the role of being a titles registry. I figure if the =
existing RIRs don't do it, someone else will.
But perhaps I'm missing something since I too gave up on PPML some time =
back.
Regards,
-drc
