[128691] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Lightly used IP addresses
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Patrick W. Gilmore)
Sat Aug 14 09:05:06 2010
From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>
In-Reply-To: <3029E2EB-EEB3-4E1B-A18F-D385BC99391B@arin.net>
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 09:04:53 -0400
To: North American Network Operators Group <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
Watching people snark on mailing lists is occasionally entertaining. =
Watching them snark on the wrong mailing lists is usually less =
entertaining. Watching them snark on the wrong mailing list for 100+ =
posts when the things they are snarking about were voted on by =
themselves is getting a little silly.
Watching them snark about the people they are snarking -to- trying to =
get them to participate in the process they are snarking -about- is =
pathetic.
If you don't like the way ARIN does things, change them. I don't like =
people going to the IETF and trying to get the IETF to do things the =
operators should be doing. I talked to the AC & BoD members before I =
voted, and none of them mentioned this to me. I feel like snarking =
about that is valid, since I put in time & effort, but was still caught =
by surprise. But instead of snarking, I'm working to change that.
How much time & effort was spent (wasted?) reading mailing lists that =
could have been used to put forth proposals to ARIN (or the other RIRs)? =
Which is more likely to get what you want?
Oh, and about ARIN wasting money: Do you really think a 10% or even 50% =
reduction in ARIN fees will make -any- difference to the companies =
paying those fees? OTOH, I do believe a 50% reduction in ARIN fees will =
result in far less outreach, which means less community participation, =
which I feel is suboptimal. If you disagree, propose a change, get me & =
people who feel as I do outvoted, and things will change. What's more, =
I will not snark about the fact I got outvoted on NANOG.
Or you can post to NANOG and see nothing change. Up to you.
--=20
TTFN,
patrick
