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Re: Lightly used IP addresses

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Curran)
Sat Aug 14 01:19:37 2010

From: John Curran <jcurran@arin.net>
To: Jeffrey Lyon <jeffrey.lyon@blacklotus.net>
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 01:19:27 -0400
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimSsSpNP+fpw+=Wbhtn63JBQx84OFfd0Wn3Wh=_@mail.gmail.com>
Cc: North American Network Operators Group <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

On Aug 14, 2010, at 12:32 AM, Jeffrey Lyon wrote:
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> John,
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> I will concur with Randy that much of the travel that ARIN funds is
> excessive. ARIN has a booth at trade shows so i'm going to guess that
> entire setup with travel costs about $20,000 - 50,000 per show. Why?
> To convince me to use ARIN for my IP space needs? To convince us to
> switch to IPv6? I'm not really understanding this, ARIN can hear from
> the community for free and without spending tens of thousands of
> dollars.
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> Why can't we save that money and use it to provide tangible services,
> like providing advisory and implementation assistance for companies
> wanting to convert to IPv6? We could use it to fund investigations
> targeting IP space abuse (see my previous post a few minutes back).

This year ARIN has undertaken a major initiative in outreach specifically
regarding IPv6, and this includes time of several ARIN staff, trade show=20
participation, travel for volunteers from the AC or Board, PR firm, etc.=20
I'd estimate this additional initiative to be near $500,000 in expense
within ARIN's $15M/year budget.

The goal is to get the message about impending IPv4 depletion and IPv6=20
transition out to more organizations in the region.  One side effect of=20
this is that hopefully you're seeing the IPv6 issue appearing quite a=20
bit more in both trade and business press.
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While we may think that the IPv4/IPv6 situation is common knowledge, we
are running into ISPs and hosting companies each day that believe we've=20
got enough IPv4 addresses for many decades to come.  Now, we're doing=20
this because we've had people at the microphones at nearly every ARIN=20
public meeting asking us to do more to increase the visibility of IPv4=20
depletion and IPv6, so this is definitely something that should get=20
some more discussion at the next ARIN meeting if you feel otherwise. =20

/John

John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN

p.s. Ongoing threads on ARIN financials should probably move over to=20
     ARIN-discuss sooner or later (out of respect to those on Nanog who=20
     didn't think they signed up for that on this operational list...)




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