[128681] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Lightly used IP addresses
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jeffrey Lyon)
Sat Aug 14 01:00:09 2010
In-Reply-To: <AFE43A6C-5F43-4895-9CF4-C53911780EAF@arin.net>
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 09:30:02 +0430
From: Jeffrey Lyon <jeffrey.lyon@blacklotus.net>
To: John Curran <jcurran@arin.net>
Cc: North American Network Operators Group <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
John,
I have privately e-mailed you 5 x /18 and 3 x /19 that are being
abused. If ARIN takes action against even one of these allocations I
will commend you publicly. I'll go do the investigation for you if you
need evidence.
Best regards, Jeff
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 9:07 AM, John Curran <jcurran@arin.net> wrote:
> On Aug 14, 2010, at 12:12 AM, Jeffrey Lyon wrote:
>
>> ARIN needs to investigate these companies and start reclaiming space.
>> Pose as a customer, see if they'll sell you a /24 or shorter on a
>> dedicated server for some arbitrary reason, and if so they're busted.
>>>
>> From there launch a full investigation and start reclaiming space.
>
> Jeff -
>
> =A0Yes and No.
>
> =A0Yes, we'd like to know if you believe that an organization is
> =A0forging their address space justification. =A0We always do some
> =A0cross-checking and verification but it is not foolproof.
>
> =A0No, we will not pose as a customer, although we will verify some
> =A0customer assignments and speak with them. =A0If we find evidence
> =A0of fraud in company's request to ARIN, we will perform resource
> =A0review and have them return space to match what they should have
> =A0received (as described in <https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html>
> =A0NRPM section 12). =A0We will also make certain that future requests
> =A0are very closely reviewed. =A0Recognize that these creative hosting
> =A0firms are also businesses with customers, and reclaiming IP space
> =A0out from under them to impact customers isn't the intent of policy.
> =A0We do occasionally have egregious acts (e.g. where the "ISP" turns
> =A0out to be simply a purveyor of IP addresses to online marketing
> =A0firms), and circumstances such as those are where reclamation is
> =A0used.
>
> Does that clarify things?
> /John
>
> John Curran
> President and CEO
> ARIN
>
>
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Jeffrey Lyon, Leadership Team
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