[128638] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Lightly used IP addresses
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jared Mauch)
Fri Aug 13 17:01:25 2010
In-Reply-To: <1ACD377D-B50A-4DB6-8DA4-87B8682D0367@oicr.on.ca>
From: Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net>
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 17:00:04 -0400
To: Greg Whynott <Greg.Whynott@oicr.on.ca>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
I know of several large providers that would stop routing such "rogue" space=
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Any provider that isn't prepared to deal with such a possible customer threa=
t or problem you don't want to be associating with. They likely harbor other=
badness as well.=20
It may take some time to catch up to them but we have seen more of these rog=
ue elements end up with people refusing to sell to them or law enforcement t=
aking some action.=20
If your management does not realize they are buying from possible criminals,=
you get what you pay for.
I've found a number of cases where providers are actually doing mitm and ste=
aling SIP credentials for fraud. Make sure you actually have good controls a=
nd communication for when things hit the fan....
Jared Mauch
On Aug 13, 2010, at 3:00 PM, Greg Whynott <Greg.Whynott@oicr.on.ca> wrote:
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>> I would consider a transit provider who subverted an ARIN revocation to b=
e disreputable, and seek other sources of transit.
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> easy to say, but the reality is you may chose not to do so due to logisti=
cal, monetary or management/boss reasons which trumps your constitutionall=
y balanced nature.
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> If someone who was downstream from this provider in a similar situation,=
I'd say there is a stronger propensity for them to not 'do the right thing'=
. which by the way isn't a law, so who says its right? its a set of gu=
ide lines a group of folks put together.
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