[128485] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Google wants your Internet to be faster
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Kenny Sallee)
Tue Aug 10 14:05:19 2010
In-Reply-To: <8C26A4FDAE599041A13EB499117D3C2816475A42@ex-mb-1.corp.atlasnetworks.us>
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 11:05:11 -0700
From: Kenny Sallee <kenny.sallee@gmail.com>
To: Nathan Eisenberg <nathan@atlasnetworks.us>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Nathan Eisenberg
<nathan@atlasnetworks.us>wrote:
> > Maybe the ISP's should move this choice to the consumer.
>
> The consumer already has this option on many SOHO firewalls. No action by
> ISPs is required. But this is totally irrelevant to the idea of Net
> Neutrality.
>
>
Yes - but you can only traffic shape / prioritize so much after the data has
reached your end of a circuit / connection. So yes those SOHO devices do it
- but if you look on the wire - you'll see more actual bandwidth making it
across then you are expecting. The SOHO devices are just buffering /
dropping stuff / manipulating TCP flows to slow unimportant stuff down.
It's a better solution to do this on the provider side
> > I view this exercise as paying for priority when the circuit is full --
> like a special carpool lane.
>
> Carrier circuits should never be 'full', unless your definition of 'full'
> is 50-70%, IMHO. 100% full is a failure of engineering, business planning,
> and monitoring. Priority shouldn't be required.
>
>
True - but we are not talking about carrier circuits in the core. Agree
with your statements regarding core carrier circuits. We are talking about
the 'last mile' DSL/Cable/Fiber connection into your house. My bandwidth is
pegged everytime I download a new version of Linux from bittorrent. During
that time - my VoIP and Netflix have issues.
> Best Regards,
> Nathan Eisenberg
>
>
