[128312] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Matthew Walster)
Fri Jul 30 06:12:52 2010
In-Reply-To: <A4D0298B-4A5E-4F32-AB4F-674EBD097133@delong.com>
From: Matthew Walster <matthew@walster.org>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:11:04 +0100
To: nanog list <nanog@nanog.org>
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On 30 July 2010 09:53, Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> wrote:
> 2. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Yes, they are already available. A moderate PC wit=
h 4 Gig-E
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0ports can actually route all four of them at n=
ear wire speed.
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0For 10/100Mbps, you can get full featured CPE =
like the SRX-100
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0for around $500. That's the upper end of the r=
esidential CPE
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0price range, but, it's a small fraction of the=
cost of that functionality
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0just 2 years ago.
A moderate PC is not a typical CPE. An SRX-100 is not a typical CPE. A
Draytek DSL modem/router is not a typical CPE.
Your typical CPE is, and always will be, a simple device. It will (and
should) contain no user configuration that is required for operation.
If it does, it's too complicated for the average user.
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Home sensor networ=
k and/or appliances
If it's really necessary to put these on a separate network, I highly
doubt anyone but the true gadget geek will bother.
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Kids net (nanny so=
ftware?)
Should be sorted at the PC-level, not the network level. If it really
is going to be a network service, it should be off the home network
and a managed service by an ISP somewhere.
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Home entertainment=
systems
Really? A separate network just for an HTPC?
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Guest wireless
Wireless is polluted enough. Supposing everything's fixed in the
future and there is near-unlimited wireless spectrum, your average
user is just going to give the encryption key to the router to the
guest. Network management is not on the radar for 99.9% of resi users.
Seriously, this is getting silly. I'm not even going to respond any
more - if you genuinely think users care about network management,
you're wrong. They treat it as a black box, and that isn't going to
change for a long, long, long time.
M
