[128193] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: FW: Who controlls the Internet?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Cian Brennan)
Mon Jul 26 03:53:41 2010
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 08:53:27 +0100
From: Cian Brennan <cian.brennan@redbrick.dcu.ie>
To: Robert West <robert.west@just-micro.com>
In-Reply-To: <000101cb2c74$60a44d40$21ece7c0$@just-micro.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:41:05PM -0400, Robert West wrote:
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert West [mailto:robert.west@just-micro.com]
> Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 10:56 PM
> To: 'Tarig Yassin'
> Subject: RE: Who controlls the Internet?
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> Each individual government seems to control the information the enters or
> leaves their borders. Do a search for "Internet Censorship Wikileaks".
> Every government has their own set of morals and standards and politically
> motivated black list. Certainly the USA wants to swagger and force its will
> on not only its own people but the entire planet, but they are not alone.
> Australia, China, North Korea, Germany........ Etc............ All with
> their own agenda. It would be great if there was ONE entity that controlled
> content and each country had to abide by their decisions in order to have
> access to the backbone but that's only just a dream at this point. The flat
> earth that should be the flow of information needs to be demanded by
> everyone.
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Not all states (or people for that matter) agree with Voltaire's view of free
speech. If our democratically accountable, and elected government wants to ban
hate speech/child porn/$OTHER_ILLEGAL_CONTENT, and puts in an accountable
method of dealing with it, I find it hard to see why the US view of free speech
should prevail over that choice.
> That's my 13 cents worth.
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> (Inflation sucks)
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> But who am I but just a thinking and caring animal of this planet?
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> Bob-
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tarig Yassin [mailto:tariq198487@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 1:24 PM
> To: nanog
> Subject: Who controlls the Internet?
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> Deal all
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> I want to show you some obstacles that some countries face them every day.
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> For example when users from Sudan trying to access some web site they will
> get a *Forbidden Access Error* message.
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> And some messages say: you are forbidden to access this web site because
> your IP address appears form country black listed due to USA government
> policy.
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> I would like to issue a question here, who controls this Internet?
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> ThanksTarig
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