[128165] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Who controlls the Internet?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Fred Baker)
Sun Jul 25 15:15:06 2010
From: Fred Baker <fred@cisco.com>
In-Reply-To: <SNT137-w5651FB6513D82C6116EFC4BBA50@phx.gbl>
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 21:14:40 +0200
To: Tarig Yassin <tariq198487@hotmail.com>
Cc: nanog <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Jul 25, 2010, at 7:24 PM, Tarig Yassin wrote:
> Deal all
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> I want to show you some obstacles that some countries face them every =
day.
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> For example when users from Sudan trying to access some web site they =
will get a *Forbidden Access Error* message.
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> And some messages say: you are forbidden to access this web site =
because your IP address appears form country black listed due to USA =
government policy.
I don't know of USG blacklists. There are certainly blacklists looked at =
by operators; they do this for their own reasons, not due to government =
pressure. Understand that the kind of thing that would motivate the USG =
to blacklist a country from looking at a given web site would be if the =
web site displayed information that would enable that country to =
threaten the US. There is information that is covered by a set of =
regulations called ITAR; it doesn't say what country can't receive =
information, it says what information a US citizen cannot legally =
communicate to anyone that is not a US citizen.
I suspect that what is really happening here is that the Sudan has a =
redirect in place that blocks information it considers its citizens =
should not be able to access. The web page you see is designed to get =
you to wonder about those evil devils, the Americans, rather than those =
who are actually blocking the traffic.
> I would like to issue a question here, who controls this Internet?
Nobody, and everybody.=20
> ThanksTarig =20
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