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Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jens Link)
Fri Jul 23 05:51:19 2010

To: nanog list <nanog@nanog.org>
From: Jens Link <lists@quux.de>
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:50:02 +0200
In-Reply-To: <8AC1FEFF-C2A5-4063-BB26-8F11BB1985EE@delong.com> (Owen DeLong's
	message of "Thu\, 22 Jul 2010 22\:13\:10 -0700")
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> writes:

> In all reality:
>
> 1.	NAT has nothing to do with security. Stateful inspection provides
> 	security, NAT just mangles addresses.

You know that, I know that and (hopefully) all people on this list know
that. But NAT == security was and still is sold by many people. 

> Most customers don't know or care what NAT is and wouldn't know the
> difference between a NAT firewall and a stateful inspection firewall.

I Agree. But there are also many people who want to believe in NAT as
security feature.

After one of my talks about IPv6 the firewall admins of a company said
something like: "So we can't use NAT as an excuse anymore and have to
configure firewall rules? We don't want this."

cheers

Jens
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