[127775] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Vyatta as a BRAS
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dobbins, Roland)
Tue Jul 13 22:36:55 2010
From: "Dobbins, Roland" <rdobbins@arbor.net>
To: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 02:36:28 +0000
In-Reply-To: <201007132245.o6DMjBJO001553@aurora.sol.net>
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On Jul 14, 2010, at 5:45 AM, Joe Greco wrote:
> That's just a completely ignorant statement to make.
It's based on a great deal of real-world experience; I'm sorry you consider=
that to be 'ignorant'.
> I notice in particular how carefully you qualify that with "[w]hen BCPs =
are=20
> followed"; the fact that hardware router manufacturers have declared
> everything and anything that derails their bullet trains as "not a
> BCP" is a perfect example of this deceptive sort of misinformation.
Anti-spoofing, iACLs, CoPP (or its equivalent on non-Cisco platforms), et. =
al. aren't 'misinformation'. They're useful, proven techniques/features wh=
ich any operator ought to implement.
> There are plenty of FreeBSD based devices out there that are passing
> tons of traffic; almost any of them are more competent than any Cisco
> router I'm aware of when hitting them directly with traffic
Then your experience of Cisco routers (and/or those from other vendors) mus=
t be limited to the lower-end platforms; I can assure you that faster Cisco=
boxes such as ASRs, GSRs, CRSes, and so forth are in another league entire=
ly, and can handle mpps of to-us traffic, when properly configured. Softwa=
re-based routers simply can't do that; it's not an indictment of them, it's=
just that they aren't suited to purpose, just as station wagons generally =
aren't to be found in the Indy 500.
;>
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