[127505] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Feds disable movie piracy websites in raids
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Lindqvist Kurt Erik)
Thu Jul 1 10:56:45 2010
From: Lindqvist Kurt Erik <kurtis@kurtis.pp.se>
In-Reply-To: <7B6B519D-D0B9-4816-A845-417F29086D43@ianai.net>
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 16:56:25 +0200
To: Patrick W. Gilmore <patrick@ianai.net>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
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On 1 jul 2010, at 15.20, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
> n Jul 1, 2010, at 9:03 AM, Franck Martin wrote:
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>> The question is because gTLDs operations are in the USA, does it mean =
that the USA have control over all those domain names?
>>=20
>> Can we trust solely the USA for such control?
>>=20
>> This will come back with a vengeance in the JPA negotiations, ICANN, =
etc...
JPA discussions are concluded and replaced with the AoC. The discussion =
on the renewal of the IANA contract I suspect will be a recurring theme =
in IGF in Villnius.=20
> Yeah, because if the domains were housed in another country than the =
USofA, that country's court system & law enforcement surely wouldn't =
feel any sort of authority over the machines on their sovereign soil. =
It's just the evil USA that would dare to think in such a fashion. Oh, =
wait....
If you look at the . level i.e ICANN my understanding is that if it was =
a treaty or UN organization that does not apply. However as we are =
talking gTLD level you are indeed right.=20
> Is it possible the law enforcement officers went through the standard =
due process for the country in which they operate, Just Like Any Other =
Law Enforcement Agency Would? Nahh, no way we could consider that. It =
wouldn't allow us to bang on the US and make hollow threats about future =
negotiations.
>=20
>=20
> It's fun to bang on the US, but let's try to keep even a hint of =
reality & perspective in our rants. Please?
Best regards,
- kurtis -
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