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Re: Feds disable movie piracy websites in raids

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Patrick W. Gilmore)
Thu Jul 1 09:21:00 2010

From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>
In-Reply-To: <20249146.28.1277989432590.JavaMail.franck@franck-martins-macbook-pro.local>
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 09:20:45 -0400
To: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

On Jul 1, 2010, at 9:03 AM, Franck Martin wrote:

> The question is because gTLDs operations are in the USA, does it mean =
that the USA have control over all those domain names?
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> Can we trust solely the USA for such control?
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> This will come back with a vengeance in the JPA negotiations, ICANN, =
etc...

Yeah, because if the domains were housed in another country than the =
USofA, that country's court system & law enforcement surely wouldn't =
feel any sort of authority over the machines on their sovereign soil.  =
It's just the evil USA that would dare to think in such a fashion.  Oh, =
wait....

Is it possible the law enforcement officers went through the standard =
due process for the country in which they operate, Just Like Any Other =
Law Enforcement Agency Would?  Nahh, no way we could consider that.  It =
wouldn't allow us to bang on the US and make hollow threats about future =
negotiations.


It's fun to bang on the US, but let's try to keep even a hint of reality =
& perspective in our rants.  Please?

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TTFN,
patrick


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Florian Weimer" <fweimer@bfk.de>
> To: "Michael Painter" <tvhawaii@shaka.com>
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> Sent: Friday, 2 July, 2010 12:39:34 AM
> Subject: Re: Feds disable movie piracy websites in raids
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> * Michael Painter:
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>> BURBANK, Calif. (AP) -- U.S. officials on Wednesday announced a major
>> crackdown on movie piracy that involved disabling nine websites that
>> were offering downloads of pirated movies in some cases hours after
>> they appeared in theaters.
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> Note that some of the domain names in the ICE press release appear to
> be wrong (or they have already lost control of them).
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> Targeting THEPIRATECITY.ORG and not THEPIRATEBAY.ORG is slightly
> ridiculous, and it seems that TVSHACK.NET has already reappeared as
> TVSHACK.CC.  ZML.NAME is still controlled by the ZML.COM folks, but
> seems to have problems right now.  This takedown approach might work
> for controllers of non-too-advanced malware, but you need something
> better for content which people actually want to access, and which is
> indexed by helpful search engines. 8-/
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> --=20
> Florian Weimer                <fweimer@bfk.de>
> BFK edv-consulting GmbH       http://www.bfk.de/
> Kriegsstra=DFe 100              tel: +49-721-96201-1
> D-76133 Karlsruhe             fax: +49-721-96201-99
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