[127013] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Wed Jun 9 18:03:02 2010
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <4C100202.70304@cox.net>
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 14:59:00 -0700
To: Larry Sheldon <LarrySheldon@cox.net>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Jun 9, 2010, at 2:05 PM, Larry Sheldon wrote:
> On 6/9/2010 15:56, Owen DeLong wrote:
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>> On Jun 9, 2010, at 8:26 AM, Brielle Bruns wrote:
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>>> On 6/9/10 6:27 AM, Jorge Amodio wrote:
>>>> Going back then to a previous question, do we want more/any =
regulation ?
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>>> Laws and regulation exist because people can't behave civilly and be =
expected to respect the rights/boundries/property others.
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>>> CAN-SPAM exists because the e-mail marketing business refused to =
self regulate and respect the wishes of consumers/administrators
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>> Which is good, because it certainly eliminated most of the SPAM. -- =
NOT!
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> It is actually an outstanding example of something of something I =
spoke
> of here earlier.
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> Without any exception that I know of, regulations are written to =
protect
> the entrenched. CAN-SPAM was written to protect spammers, not to
> prevent anything important to them.
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Actually, as much as it would make so much more sense if that were the
case, it simply isn't true. CAN-SPAM was written to be a compromise =
that
was supposed to allow consumers to opt out of receiving SPAM and
prevent SPAMMERs from sending unwanted messages.
Sadly, of course, it hasn't done either one.
Owen
> --=20
> Somebody should have said:
> A democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for =
dinner.
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> Freedom under a constitutional republic is a well armed lamb =
contesting
> the vote.
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> Requiescas in pace o email
> Ex turpi causa non oritur actio
> Eppure si rinfresca
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> ICBM Targeting Information: http://tinyurl.com/4sqczs
> http://tinyurl.com/7tp8ml
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> =09