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Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Wed Jun 9 14:28:12 2010

To: Larry Sheldon <LarrySheldon@cox.net>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 09 Jun 2010 12:32:54 CDT."
	<4C0FD046.7070307@cox.net>
From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 14:27:25 -0400
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

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On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 12:32:54 CDT, Larry Sheldon said:
> On 6/9/2010 12:17, Joe Greco wrote:
> > So, just so we're clear here, I go to Best Buy, I buy a computer, I 
> > bring it home, plug it into my cablemodem, and am instantly Pwned by
> > the non-updated Windows version on the drive plus the incessant cable
> > modem scanning, resulting in a bot infection...  therefore I am 
> > negligent?
> > 
> > Do you actually think a judge would find that negligent, or is this
> > just your own personal definition of negligence?  Because I doubt that
> > a judge, or even an ordinary person, could possibly consider it such.
> 
> One can argue (and I will) that there is indeed some culpability because
> the buyer bought the cheapest version of everything and connected it to
> a negligent provider's system.

And the average consumer can avoid the culpability in this scenario, how,
exactly?

"If people place a nice chocky in their mouth, they don't want their cheeks
pierced"

http://orangecow.org/pythonet/sketches/crunchy.htm

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