[126995] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joe Greco)
Wed Jun 9 13:17:14 2010
From: Joe Greco <jgreco@ns.sol.net>
To: owen@delong.com (Owen DeLong)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 12:17:02 -0500 (CDT)
In-Reply-To: <CE92858D-745D-49C3-AF31-5778EE1B0B9E@delong.com> from "Owen
DeLong" at Jun 09, 2010 09:01:18 AM
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
> >> What I don't want to see which you are advocating... I don't want to see
> >> the end users who do take responsibility, drive well designed vehicles
> >> with proper seat belts and safety equipment, stay in their lane, and
> >> do not cause accidents held liable for the actions of others. Why should
> >> we penalize those that have done no wrong simply because they happen
> >> to be a minority?
> >
> > I agree, on the other hand, what about those people who genuinely didn't
> > do anything wrong, and their computer still got Pwned?
>
> Fiction.
>
> At the very least, if you connected a system to the network and it got Pwned,
> you were negligent in your behavior, if not malicious. Negligence is still
> wrong, even if not malice.
So, just so we're clear here, I go to Best Buy, I buy a computer, I
bring it home, plug it into my cablemodem, and am instantly Pwned by
the non-updated Windows version on the drive plus the incessant cable
modem scanning, resulting in a bot infection... therefore I am
negligent?
Do you actually think a judge would find that negligent, or is this
just your own personal definition of negligence? Because I doubt that
a judge, or even an ordinary person, could possibly consider it such.
... JG
--
Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - http://www.sol.net
"We call it the 'one bite at the apple' rule. Give me one chance [and] then I
won't contact you again." - Direct Marketing Ass'n position on e-mail spam(CNN)
With 24 million small businesses in the US alone, that's way too many apples.
