[126964] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joe Greco)
Wed Jun 9 09:22:31 2010
From: Joe Greco <jgreco@ns.sol.net>
To: owen@delong.com (Owen DeLong)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 08:21:21 -0500 (CDT)
In-Reply-To: <A55E848B-9A1F-48FF-8215-3745200376A1@delong.com> from "Owen
DeLong" at Jun 09, 2010 05:40:06 AM
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
>
> On Jun 9, 2010, at 4:27 AM, Joe Greco wrote:
>
> >> I'm all for that, but, point is that people who fail to meet that standard are
> >> currently getting a free ride. IMHO, they should pay and they should have
> >> the recourse of being (at least partially) reimbursed by their at-fault software
> >> vendors for contributory negligence.
> >
> > Great idea. You know, I've got a great solution for global warming.
> > Let's hold all the car owners accountable for all the greenhouse gases
> > their cars belch out, and let them have the recourse of being (at least
> > partially) reimbursed by their at-fault car manufacturers and gasoline
> > distributors for contributory negligence.
> >
> 1. My car emits very little greenhouse gas, so, I'm cool with that. Sounds
> great to me. (I drive a Prius).
Your car emits lots of greenhouse gases. Just because it's /less/ doesn't
change the fact that the Prius has an ICE. We have a Prius and a HiHy too.
> 2. Manufacturers are held liable for contributory negligence when the
> design of their vehicle is unsafe and causes an accident.
That isn't relevant to what I suggested.
> 3. We're not talking about greenhouse gasses here... We're talking
> about car-wrecks on the information superhighway caused by
> a combination of irresponsible operators and poor vehicle design.
That wasn't the analogy I was making. I was stabbing at the whole idea
behind your suggestion, by directly translating it to a real-world example.
> > See how insane that sounds?
> >
> Actually, it sounds reasonably sane to me, but, it's not a good analogy
> as noted above, so, the relative merits are mostly irrelevant.
>
> Owen
>
>
>
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Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - http://www.sol.net
"We call it the 'one bite at the apple' rule. Give me one chance [and] then I
won't contact you again." - Direct Marketing Ass'n position on e-mail spam(CNN)
With 24 million small businesses in the US alone, that's way too many apples.
