[126901] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dorn Hetzel)
Tue Jun 8 20:45:48 2010
In-Reply-To: <m1OM98X-008hIQC@rdaver.bungi.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 20:45:38 -0400
From: Dorn Hetzel <dhetzel@gmail.com>
To: Dave Rand <dlr@bungi.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
Perhaps a government operated black-hole list, run by same friendly folks
that run the no-fly list, with a law that says no US ISP can send packets to
or accept packets from any IP on the list.
Now that would be some real fun to watch! :)
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Dave Rand <dlr@bungi.com> wrote:
> [In the message entitled "Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers"
> on Jun 8, 14:30, Brielle Bruns writes:]
> >
> > Legit customers get caught in the cross-fire, and they suffer - but at
> > the same time, those legit customers are the only ones that will be able
> > to force a change on said provider.
> >
> > They contact us, and act all innocent, and tell people we're being
> > unreasonable, neglecting to tell people at the same time that the
> > 'unreasonable' DNSbl maintainer only wants for them to do a simple task
> > that thousands of other providers and administrators have done before.
> >
>
>
> I'm somewhat familiar with the concept :-)
>
> But yes, this indeed is currently the only effective way to cause change
> at the ISP level. Ferg is very correct in that Change Is Coming at
> the goverment level. That is the wrong place for it to happen, but it
> will also be very effective.
>
> I'm hopeful that more networks will take it upon themselves to make it
> happen
> before it is forced on them.
>
>
> --
>
>
