[126311] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: BGP (in)security makes the AP wire
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Hank Nussbacher)
Tue May 11 11:06:52 2010
Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 18:06:18 +0300 (IDT)
From: Hank Nussbacher <hank@efes.iucc.ac.il>
To: Mmaad Dooog <mmaaddooog@yahoo.com>
In-Reply-To: <704953.46371.qm@web114313.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Tue, 11 May 2010, Mmaad Dooog wrote:
> Is anyone going to jump on the irony of the last two paragraphs?
> Having to use the excessively rigid, slow, static, boring expensive PSTN
> to fix the cool, fast, flexible cheap, cool, fun Internet? That'll work
> just fine, of course. Until, that is, one of the telcos in the path
> saves a few bucks and routes a call leg over the Internet.
>
> What will us network operators do when there is NO out of band
> management path to anything? What will happen when you can't even place
> a phone call?
>
> The PSTN ran about 80 years or so on in-band signaling until a very
> rational cost/benefit decision was made to remove signaling from the
> traffic path. Physically seperating signaling (SS7) and routing (LERG,
> etc) paths from the traffic (for all but the access link) was a large,
> expensive, difficult effort, but worth it. The PSTN is full of
> quasi-governmental central authorities for everything, and is all the
> better for it.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/89338/morse_code_leno/
-Hank
