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Re: Dial Concentrators - TNT / APX8000 R.I.P.

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Justin M. Streiner)
Mon May 10 20:55:32 2010

Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 20:55:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Justin M. Streiner" <streiner@cluebyfour.org>
To: Chris Adams <cmadams@hiwaay.net>
In-Reply-To: <20100511002909.GA1109404@hiwaay.net>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

On Mon, 10 May 2010, Chris Adams wrote:

> Once upon a time, Justin M. Streiner <streiner@cluebyfour.org> said:
>> I have a small handful of AS5300s still floating around for that handful
>> of users who can't (or won't) ditch dialup.  Luckily that number is small
>> enough that I can replace any failed parts with parts from other chassis,
>> since the ones I have were EOL'd long ago.
>
> I'm in the same boat with TNTs.  We bought replacement fans years ago
> (about the only TNT part we've had fail, outside the odd card or two).
>
> How are ISPs that still offer dialup going to handle dialup and IPv6?  I
> know the TNTs don't do it, and I don't think most of the old equipment
> in use in many places does.

My suspicion is that providers' dial gear might be included in the chunks 
of their networks that are considered 'not native v6 capable' as another 
way to try to 'goose' more people off of dialup and onto a broadband 
connection where v6 might be supported more easily.

jms


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