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Re: Securing the BGP or controlling it?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joe Abley)
Mon May 10 14:22:38 2010

From: Joe Abley <jabley@hopcount.ca>
In-Reply-To: <4BE838EB.3000000@foobar.org>
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 14:22:15 -0400
To: Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org>
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On 2010-05-10, at 12:48, Nick Hilliard wrote:

> - there are some endemic data reliability problems with the IRRDBs,
> exacerbated by the fact that on most of the widely-used IRRDBs, there =
is no
> link between the RIR and the IRRDB, which means that anyone can =
register
> any address space.  whois.ripe.net doesn't allow this, but lots of =
other
> IRRDBs do.

The RIPE db doesn't allow that for routes corresponding to address space =
assigned by the RIPE NCC. For other routes, you can register whatever =
you want (so long as nobody else got there first).

I'm not complaining about this (I routinely recommend that people use =
the RIPE db for their non-RIPE address space because as far as I can =
tell it's about the best-maintained option, and it avoids all kinds of =
headaches trying to peer in Europe and send routes whose addresses were =
assigned elsewhere) but in the global context the idea that *everything* =
in the RIPE db has been subject to strong correlation with =
assignment/allocation data is false.


Joe


inetnum:      0.0.0.0 - 255.255.255.255
netname:      IANA-BLK
descr:        The whole IPv4 address space
country:      EU # Country is really world wide
org:          ORG-IANA1-RIPE
admin-c:      IANA1-RIPE
tech-c:       IANA1-RIPE
status:       ALLOCATED UNSPECIFIED
remarks:      The country is really worldwide.
remarks:      This address space is assigned at various other places in
remarks:      the world and might therefore not be in the RIPE database.
mnt-by:       RIPE-NCC-HM-MNT
mnt-lower:    RIPE-NCC-HM-MNT
mnt-routes:   RIPE-NCC-RPSL-MNT
source:       RIPE # Filtered

inet6num:     0::/0
netname:      ROOT
descr:        Root inet6num object
country:      EU
org:          ORG-IANA1-RIPE
admin-c:      IANA1-RIPE
tech-c:       CREW-RIPE
tech-c:       OPS4-RIPE
mnt-by:       RIPE-NCC-HM-MNT
mnt-lower:    RIPE-NCC-HM-MNT
mnt-routes:   RIPE-NCC-RPSL-MNT
status:       ALLOCATED-BY-RIR
remarks:      This network in not allocated.
              This object is here for Database
              consistency and to allow hierarchical
              authorisation checks.
source:       RIPE # Filtered

mntner:         RIPE-NCC-RPSL-MNT
descr:          This maintainer may be used to create objects to =
represent
descr:          routing policy in the RIPE Database for number resources =
not
descr:          allocated or assigned from the RIPE NCC.
admin-c:        RD132-RIPE
auth:           MD5-PW $1$ScJSM7nN$Xw3aAduCRZx4QUEq8QjR5/
remarks:        *******************************************************
remarks:        * The password for this object is 'RPSL', without the *
remarks:        * quotes. Do NOT use this maintainer as 'mnt-by'.     *
remarks:        *******************************************************
mnt-by:         RIPE-DBM-MNT
referral-by:    RIPE-DBM-MNT
source:         RIPE # Filtered



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