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Re: BGP (in)security makes the AP wire

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joel Jaeggli)
Sun May 9 12:38:51 2010

Date: Sun, 09 May 2010 09:38:18 -0700
From: Joel Jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com>
To: Eugen Leitl <eugen@leitl.org>
In-Reply-To: <20100509163047.GN1964@leitl.org>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org



On 05/09/2010 09:30 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote:
> On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 10:54:46AM -0500, Larry Sheldon wrote:
> 
>> And when I drive someplace, I do indeed go by the signs I see, which are
>> not erected by a central authority, as I move along.  (I don't have a
>> route from here to Fairbanks, Alaska, but my MCA shows one from here to
>> Council Bluffs, Iowa, and from there there are several I might use,
>> depending on what signs I see ("Warning, I29 N closed at Mondamin due to
>> flooding") when I get there.)
> 
> Speaking about that, is anyone currently seeing geographic (local-knowledge)
> routing and authorityless address (=position) allocation from coordinates 
> (e.g. WGS 84 position fixes) in any realistic time frame as a major component 
> on the Internet?

geographic location doesn't map to topology

> Presumably, one could prototype something simple and cheap at L2 level 
> with WGS 84->MAC (about ~m^2 resolution), custom switch firmware and GBIC 
> for longish (1-70 km) distances, but without a mesh it won't work.
>  
>> I'm sorry, but I am very afraid of "Central Authority".
> 


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