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Re: Internationalized domain names in the root

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Zaid Ali)
Thu May 6 16:27:37 2010

Date: Thu, 06 May 2010 13:27:00 -0700
From: Zaid Ali <zaid@zaidali.com>
To: Geoff Adams <gadams+nanog@avernus.com>,
	NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
In-Reply-To: <689997AE-42C1-4759-8006-9F5BBE07E651@avernus.com>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

I agree Safari experience looks much nicer and yes whole host of potential
malice to arise. Firefox shows punycode

 http://xn--4gbrim.xn----rmckbbajlc6dj7bxne2c.xn--wgbh1c/ar/default.aspx

Now if I understood arabic only and was travelling or happen to use Firefox
which showed punycode how would I trust it? If it was directly translated t=
o
latin characters I could trust it with verification from someone I know who
understands english. I would not trust puny code because an end user does
not know what it means, I think there is potential for a lot of issues here=
.

Zaid =20


On 5/6/10 11:45 AM, "Geoff Adams" <gadams+nanog@avernus.com> wrote:

> On 5 May 2010, at 2:16 PM, Jorge Amodio wrote:
>> On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 11:34 AM, David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org> wrot=
e:
>>> Perhaps a bit off-topic, but some folks might get support calls...
>>>=20
>>> http://=D9=88=D8=B2=D8=A7=D8=B1=D8=A9-=D8=A7=D9=84=D8=A3=D8=AA=D8=B5=D8=A7=D9=84=D8=A7=D8=AA.=D9=85=D8=B5=D8=B1/
>>>=20
>>> (that's Arabic for <Ministry of Communications>.<Egypt>)
>>=20
>> Great progress and interesting addition to the root, only issue is
>> that after all the work with IDNs you land on a page written in
>> english (web browser lang does not matter, name resolves to the same
>> IP as the original URL). Hope they soon take advantage of the new name
>=20
> The page shows up in Arabic for me in all three of Safari (in which the U=
RL
> bar also shows the Arabic name), Chrome and Firefox (in both of which the=
 URL
> bar shows the encoded US-ASCII characters for the domain name). I tested =
using
> the Mac versions of these three browsers, and English is set as my prefer=
red
> language. Arabic doesn't appear until much farther down on the list.
>=20
> The Safari experience looks nicer, but I suppose it leaves its users more
> susceptible to maliciously-constructed domain names that look similar to
> well-known ones. I wonder if they've addressed that issue in some way. I
> haven't been checking recently.
>=20
> - Geoff




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