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Re: Surcharge for providing Internet routes?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Mon May 3 01:50:23 2010

From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <20100503042741.GB85221@blackrose.org>
Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 22:49:21 -0700
To: Dorian Kim <dorian@blackrose.org>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org


On May 2, 2010, at 9:27 PM, Dorian Kim wrote:

> On Sun, May 02, 2010 at 08:27:56PM -0700, Matthew Petach wrote:
>> In Asia, there is a popular, but incorrectly named product offering
>> that many ISPs sell called "domestic transit" which they sell
>> for price $X; for "full routes" you often pay $2X-$3X.  I grind my
>> teeth every time I hear it, since "transit" doesn't mean "to select
>> parts of the internet" in most people's eyes.  It's really a paid
>> peering offering, but no matter how much I try to correct people,
>> the habit of calling it "domestic transit" still persists.  :(
> 
> I don't think there is a universally agreed upon definition of what 
> transit means other than it involves someone paying someone else.
> 
Hurricane Electric routinely offers free transit on IPv6, and, we give
free transit to many organizations on IPv4 as well.

To us, transit means giving them routes that are not originated by
our ASN or ASNs which are customers of our ASN.

Owen



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