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Re: Surcharge for providing Internet routes?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Patrick W. Gilmore)
Sat May 1 17:47:17 2010

From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>
In-Reply-To: <4BDCA033.8030303@ipv6canada.com>
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 17:46:22 -0400
To: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

On May 1, 2010, at 5:42 PM, Steve Bertrand wrote:
> On 2010.05.01 16:43, ML wrote:
>> Has anyone here heard of or do they themselves charge extra for
>> providing a complete internet table to customers?
>=20
> ... I've never heard of it, but iow, I'd pay more if I could get my
> upstreams to provide the full table...
>=20
> Is there a market? I doubt it.

Every "upstream" I've dealt with in the US & western Europe provides a =
full table if you ask.  Kinda the point of being an "upstream".

There are some countries where "Bee-Gee-Pee" is not understood, and they =
therefore do not speak it.

If you buy transit from someone and they charge for setting up BGP and =
sending you a full table in the US, Canada, and most of Europe, I'd find =
another provider.  That one probably isn't clueful enough to provide =
good service.

In other parts of the planet, well, they probably still aren't clueful =
enough. :)  But when the game is fixed, if it's the only game in town, =
you sometimes have to play anyway.

--=20
TTFN,
patrick



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