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Re: Terry Childs conviction

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ernie Rubi)
Thu Apr 29 23:00:43 2010

From: Ernie Rubi <ernesto@cs.fiu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <1272593114.29108.46.camel@petrie>
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 22:21:13 -0400
To: William Pitcock <nenolod@systeminplace.net>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

Illegal control = Conversion = at least a tort, but could also be a crime.

On Apr 29, 2010, at 10:05 PM, William Pitcock wrote:

> On Thu, 2010-04-29 at 21:48 -0400, David Krider wrote:
>> On Thu, 2010-04-29 at 16:47 -0500, William Pitcock wrote:
>>> Surely even at DeVry they teach that if you refuse to hand over
>>> passwords for property that is not legally yours, that you are
>>> committing a crime.  I mean, think about it, it's effectively theft, in
>>> the same sense that if you refuse to hand over the keys for a car that
>>> you don't own, you're committing theft of an automobile.
>> 
>> I've seen a dismissed employee withhold a password. The owner of the
>> company threatened legal action, considering it, like you, theft. My
>> father-in-law is an attorney, so I asked him about the situation. He
>> said that it wouldn't be called "theft," rather "illegal control." 
> 
> Same difference, he still committed a crime and anyone who is defending
> him seems to not understand this.  Whatever we want to call that crime,
> it's still a crime, and he got the appropriate penalty.
> 
> William
> 
> 




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