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Re: [Re: http://tools.ietf.org/search/draft-hain-ipv6-ulac-01]

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Tony Finch)
Mon Apr 26 03:28:10 2010

From: Tony Finch <dot@dotat.at>
To: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.10.1004260435340.6768@uplift.swm.pp.se>
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 08:27:28 +0100
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

Use mdns/bonjour to connect to unconfigured devices. It uses link- 
local addresses (no need for an uplink and works for any kind of  
device) and provides friendly names.

Tony (on his iPod).
-- 
f.anthony.n.finch  <dot@dotat.at>  http://dotat.at/


On 26 Apr 2010, at 03:37, Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se> wrote:

> On Sun, 25 Apr 2010, Doug Barton wrote:
>
>> On 04/25/10 16:42, Owen DeLong wrote:
>>> That's what Link Local is for.
>>>
>>> fe80::<EUI-64>%<interface>
>>>
>>> For example, if the CPE is connected to the customer's network on  
>>> eth0
>>> and the CPE mac address is 00:45:4b:b9:02:be, you could go to:
>>>
>>> http://[fe80::0245:4bff:feb9:02be]%eth0
>>
>> ... and regardless of the specific method, the vendors already  
>> document
>> the procedure for connecting to the web interface for IPv4, there  
>> is no
>> reason to believe that they could not or would not do the same for  
>> IPv6
>> if necessary.
>
> Does anyone actually believe that the above is user-friendly and  
> will work in real life? Using link-local for this kind of end-user  
> administration of their equipment is doomed to fail. There needs to  
> be a procedure for devices which are going to get DHCP-PD from the  
> provider, that they have a certain prefix they use until they  
> actually get the real PD prefix, so end user dns etc works so it's  
> easy to do administration of the device.
>
> We can't expect end-users to do the above procedure.
>
> -- 
> Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike@swm.pp.se
>


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