[125757] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: [Re: http://tools.ietf.org/search/draft-hain-ipv6-ulac-01]
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Christopher Morrow)
Thu Apr 22 14:24:24 2010
In-Reply-To: <l2w2d6a9f6f1004220913s9b7975a1s4afcc7dead129071@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 14:23:23 -0400
From: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com>
To: Bill Bogstad <bogstad@pobox.com>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Bill Bogstad <bogstad@pobox.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 11:03 AM, David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org> wrot=
e:
>> On Apr 21, 2010, at 10:48 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote:
>>>> So what happens when you change providers? How are you going to keep
>>>> using globals that now aren't yours?
>>> use pi space, request it from your local friendly RIR.
>>
>> And don't forget to invest in memory manufacturers and router vendors :-=
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>
> Only required if those addresses are advertised to the Internet.
> Which is apparently NOT
> what people want to do with it. =A0 In addition, it seems like the RIRs
> frown on not publishing your IPv6 PI allocations. =A0If you go this
this is commonly held up as a reason that getting allocations is hard,
but the infrastructure micro-allocations are never to be seen in the
global table.
It woudl be super nice if some kind RIR people could comment here, I
believe in the ARIN region all you NEED to do is provide a spreadsheet
showing your utilization, checking for the routes in the 'DFZ'
(bmanning-summons) isn't relevant for additional requests.
> route, be sure to 'justify' as large an allocation as you could ever
> possibly imagine using because you'll only get one bite from that
> apple.
see previous comment, I believe this is a red-herring.
>
> Or maybe someone could offer to advertise these deliberately
> unreachable addresses for a small fee and then null route any stray
> packets that happen to want to get
> there. =A0 Would this satisfy the letter (if not the spirit) for
> justifying PI space?
you still have to provide SWIP, RWHOIS or some other accounting of the
usage (spreadsheet/csvfile seems to be historically acceptable)
-chris
> Bill Bogstad
>
>
