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Re: Mail Submission Protocol

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Tony Finch)
Thu Apr 22 07:08:37 2010

From: Tony Finch <dot@dotat.at>
To: Franck Martin <franck@genius.com>
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 12:07:49 +0100
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

On 22 Apr 2010, at 00:07, Franck Martin <franck@genius.com> wrote:

> Consider also smtps port which should be treated like smtp port and  
> not like submission port, or simply do not listen on smtps as TLS is  
> available on smtp port via esmtp.

Er, no. TLS-on-connect aka smtps (as opposed to STARTTLS) is only used  
to support Microsoft MUAs that are more than a couple of years old.  
They only supported STARTTLS on port 25 and insisted on using the  
deprecated TLS-on-connect mode on all other ports. This meant they  
could not support standard Message Submission on port 587. Therefore  
you should treat smtps (TLS-on-connect on port 465) as the special  
Microsoft version of RFC 4409 message submission. That is, treat the  
protocols exactly the same wrt authentication, authorization,  
firewalls, address validation, etc.

Tony.
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