[125357] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Gordon Cook)
Mon Apr 12 16:58:44 2010
From: Gordon Cook <cook@cookreport.com>
In-Reply-To: <9A24C4A5-8A6D-4512-B1EA-6F9F247F486D@virtualized.org>
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 16:58:33 -0400
To: David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org>
Cc: John Curran <jcurran@arin.net>, NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
David, in 1997 and 1998 I was spending about 25% of my time interview =
the principals and engaged in informal conversations with Ira =
Magaziner,Kim Hubbard, DonMitchell and others. I was in Londone in late =
jan 1998 when Jon tried to redirect the root. Magaziner was there and =
daniel karenburg and others. We did an entire day on these issues.
In addition to my published record, I have extensive electronic archives =
related to the manueverings in the founding of Arin. Should it come to =
a court case i believe that arin will come court fine and i trust that =
i will be able to asist the people involved in determining who did what =
to whom when and for what reasons.
Steve Wolff will remember attending with me a late afternoon meeting =
with magaziner in Ira office in mid december 1997 on the day that Ira =
took Jon to lunch and announced to Jon that he had put together funding =
to carry the IANA activities through Oct 1 of 1998 and the founding of =
newco.
Don Mitchel is Mr "cooperative agreement." I am quite confident that =
what John Curran is saying below is solid. Don did yeoman's work in =
ensuring the birth and independence of ARIN.
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On Apr 12, 2010, at 2:36 PM, David Conrad wrote:
> John,
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>> On this matter we do agree, since allocations prior to ARIN's =
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> As we're both aware, Jon was funded in part via the ISI Teranode =
Network Technologies project. Folks who were directly involved have told =
me that IANA-related activities weren't even identified in the original =
contracts until the mid- to late-90s (around the time when lawsuits were =
being thrown at Jon because of the domain name wars -- odd coincidence, =
that) when the IANA activities were codified as "Task 4". IANAL, but it =
seems a bit of a stretch to me for ARIN to assert policy control over =
resources allocated prior to ARIN's existence without any sort of =
documentation that explicitly lists that policy control in ARIN's =
predecessor (ever). Like I said, it'll be an interesting court case.
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> Regards,
> -drc
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