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Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Fri Apr 9 23:59:42 2010

From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <m2q3c3e3fca1004091043td86a921docf9b8258d7a004e1@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 20:57:52 -0700
To: William Herrin <bill@herrin.us>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org


On Apr 9, 2010, at 10:43 AM, William Herrin wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> wrote:
>> On Apr 9, 2010, at 7:30 AM, todd glassey wrote:
>>> BULL SH*T, ARIN makes determinations as to how many IP addresses it =
will
>>> issue and in that sense it is exactly a regulator.
>>>=20
>> No, ARIN is not a regulator.  Regulators have guns or access to =
people with
>> guns to enforce the regulations that they enact. ARIN has no such =
power.
>>=20
>> The FCC is a regulator.  The California PUC is a regulator. ARIN is =
not
>> a regulator.
>=20
> Last I heard, the FCC has access to people with law degrees not guns.
> Much like ARIN, really.
>=20
If the FCC finds that you have violated an FCC regulation, they are well
and truly capable of bringing in the FBI and State or Local law =
enforcement
to enforce their regulation. All three of those entities have guns. To =
do so,
the FCC does not need a court order.

ARIN cannot get the FBI, State, or Local law enforcement to enforce
ARIN policy unless that policy is further backed by a court order.
(Of course, at that point, they are acting under the force of a =
regulator
in the form of the court more than under ARIN).

Owen



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