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Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Thu Apr 8 19:29:59 2010

From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.1.10.1004081615550.29861@catbert.rellim.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 16:25:42 -0700
To: "Gary E. Miller" <gem@rellim.com>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

You are mistaken.

If you only need one /64, you cannot possibly be an IPv6 ISP.

As such, you would only pay the end-user price of $1250 one-time and =
$100/year.

That $100/year also covers your IPv4 space and your autonomous system =
number.

Owen

On Apr 8, 2010, at 4:18 PM, Gary E. Miller wrote:

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> Yo Owen!
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> Since I just need one /64 that is $1,250/yr for the /64.
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> That puts me at a large competitive disadvantage to the big boys.
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> RGDS
> GARY
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> Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97701
> 	gem@rellim.com  Tel:+1(541)382-8588
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> On Thu, 8 Apr 2010, Owen DeLong wrote:
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>> This assumes that small =3D /40 and large =3D /22.
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>> Still, with more realistic numbers:
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>> The small guy (/48) pays $0.019073486 per /64
>> The large guy (/24) pays $0.000000032741808 per /64
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>> FWIW.
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>> Owen
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>> On Apr 7, 2010, at 2:48 PM, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
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>>> On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 14:17:49 PDT, "Gary E. Miller" said:
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>>>> Then scroll down to the fees you can expect in 2013.  Especially =
note
>>>> how the small guys get hit much harder per IP.
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>>> The small guys pay: $0.000074505805969 per /64. ($1250 / (2^(64-40))
>>> The big guys pay:   $0.000000008185452 per /64. ($36000 / =
(2^(64-22))
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>>> The small guys are still paying less than 1/100th of a penny per =
/64. Assuming
>>> your salary plus overhead is $40/hour, each *second* of your time is =
worth
>>> more than the cost of 150 /64s.
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>>> Oh, the inhumanity.
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