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Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (joe mcguckin)
Thu Apr 8 14:32:26 2010

From: joe mcguckin <joe@via.net>
In-Reply-To: <20100408175026.GE4808@dan.olp.net>
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 11:29:25 -0700
To: Dan White <dwhite@olp.net>
Cc: bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com, NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>,
	Joe Greco <jgreco@ns.sol.net>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

This is a pretty boring topic. It's been argued many times over.

I think the more interesting discussion is: =20
  - Where is ARIN and the RIR's headed?=20
  - What will ARIN look like 10 years from now?

Mission creep seems to be pervasive in all organizations. ICANN with a =
headcount of over 100 and a budget exceeding 60MM fulfills a core =
function
that used to be performed by what? 2.5 full-time persons?

Is this the fate that awaits ARIN?

The main justification for ARIN's size, budget - its existence, even - =
is that ARIN shepherds a limited set of resources. I find it interesting =
then, that
a number of the pro-IPV6 folk seem to be saying just the opposite when =
it comes to IPV6. If they're not saying it outright, then the subtext of =
their argument is that=20
IPV6 is so large, we'll never exhaust it. (Go ahead and give that =
customer with one computer a chunk of address space that is 2^32 larger =
than the entire existing IPV4=20
address space - we'll never miss it.)

Well, if that's true; if IPV6 means that address space is no longer a =
scarce - limited, even - resource, why would there even be an ARIN? Why =
not collapse all the RIR's into=20
a website that functions more as a title registry than as a =
justification/vetting organization?

After all, IPV6 space is inexhaustible - right. So what if some idiot =
wants to grab 50 allocations...

We'll never miss it.

Joe

Joe McGuckin
ViaNet Communications

joe@via.net
650-207-0372 cell
650-213-1302 office
650-969-2124 fax

PS:

If we want to keep the size of the routing tables down, why isn't ARIN =
charging MORE for end-user assignments. A lot more, like the same or =
even more=20
than what allocations cost.=


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