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Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Wed Apr 7 19:25:00 2010

From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <DAE7A2BD-D3FD-46B8-9B1D-2B22C5212E09@virtualized.org>
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 16:22:01 -0700
To: David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org


On Apr 7, 2010, at 2:49 PM, David Conrad wrote:

> On Apr 7, 2010, at 10:52 AM, William Pitcock wrote:
>> And when there are no eyeballs to look at your IPv4 content because =
your
>> average comcast user is on IPv6?
>=20
> The chances of this actually occurring in our lifetime are so small as =
to be meaningless.  There are (according to published reports) between 1 =
and 2 billion people reachable on IPv4.  No rational commercial Internet =
organization is going to block themselves off from that customer base.  =
Folks like Comcast will probably add IPv6 support _in addition to_ IPv4. =
 Eventually, they may even add a surcharge to encourage people to =
migrate off IPv4, but I'd imagine that's way down the line.  By way of =
analogy, how long did pulse dialing continue to be supported in the =
phone system after DTMF was introduced?
>=20
> Regards,
> -drc

Actually, I suspect that once orgs. like Comcast have IPv6 fully =
deployed you will very likely see increasing fees for "Legacy IPv4 =
Support" from those providers.  Once that happens, there will be =
eye-ball consumer pressure for content providers to be available on IPv6 =
or lose business.

Pulse dialing is still supported in most PSTN switches.  How often do =
you think it is still used?

Frankly, the biggest reason Pulse dialing wasn't deprecated faster was =
the number of Telcos that charged extra for DTMF support for so long. =
Once the DTMF surcharges were removed, most users converted almost over =
night.

Owen



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