[124684] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: What is "The Internet" TCP/IP or UNIX-to-UNIX ?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joe Greco)
Sat Apr 3 22:37:47 2010
From: Joe Greco <jgreco@ns.sol.net>
To: nanog@nanog.org
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 20:36:55 -0600 (CST)
In-Reply-To: <p2t113c8ba81004031838u1b480417wcd6dd36085d1ac2d@mail.gmail.com>
from "IPv3.com" at Apr 03, 2010 08:38:46 PM
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
> What if TCP is removed ? and IP is completely re-worked in the same
> 160-bit foot-print as IPv4 ? Would 64-bit Addressing last a few years ?
>
> IPv6 is a loser because everyone has to carry the overhead of bloated
> packets. It is a one-size-fits-all take it or leave it solution.
By that logic, wouldn't IPv4 also be considered a loser because everyone
has been carrying the overhead of bloated packets for years? Especially
near the beginning, we didn't need a 32-bit-sized address ...
And why would we jump to 64-bit addressing, since you're so worried about
the bloat in packets? Wouldn't it be more sensible to move to 36-bit or
40-bit addresses? If we jump to 64, aren't we wasting at least 56 bits
per packet then (2 * (64 - 36))?
And if we're going to completely re-work IP, why wouldn't we just move to
a version that ensures addresses are plentiful? And if we're going to do
that, why not just go with 128 bits?
Bits are cheap. I mean, really, really, really, REALLY cheap. Trading
a few bytes worth in order to get a solution that'll last us for the rest
of our lifetimes (and then some) is a no-brainer.
However, if you're really interested in it, I suggest you read the message
I posted, subject of "Important", a few days ago. It suggests a
bloat-free way to continue to grow the existing network. It's completely
practical and I think you should promote it.
... JG
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