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Re: legacy /8

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (jim deleskie)
Sat Apr 3 09:50:47 2010

In-Reply-To: <F5FA56AC5C364E3F9194C80A53F7D869@TAKA>
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 10:49:49 -0300
From: jim deleskie <deleskie@gmail.com>
To: "John Palmer (NANOG Acct)" <nanog2@adns.net>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

I haven't seen anything, not to say there isn't, but I would certainly
be open to the idea. From an operational point of view to me it seems
much more straight forward then v6.
-jim

On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 11:29 PM, John Palmer (NANOG Acct)
<nanog2@adns.net> wrote:
> Is someone volunteering to work on an RFC? =A0Or, has someone done so for=
 this
> already?
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "jim deleskie" <deleskie@gmail.com>
> To: <nanog@nanog.org>
> Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 9:17 PM
> Subject: Re: legacy /8
>
>
> I'm old but maybe not old nuff to know if this was discussed before or
> not, but I've been asking people last few months why we don't just do
> something like this. don't even need to get rid of BGP, just add some
> extension, we see ok to add extensions to BGP to do other things, this
> makes at least if not more sence.
>
>
> -jim
>
> On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 11:13 PM, George Bonser <gbonser@seven.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Jim Burwell [mailto:jimb@jsbc.cc]
>>> Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 6:00 PM
>>> To: nanog@nanog.org
>>> Subject: Re: legacy /8
>>
>>
>>> So, jump through hoops to kludge up IPv4 so it continues to provide
>>> address space for new allocations through multiple levels of NAT (or
>>> whatever), and buy a bit more time, or jump through the hoops required
>>> to deploy IPv6 and eliminate the exhaustion problem? And also, if the
>>> IPv4 space is horse-traded among RIRs and customers as you allude to
>>> above, IPv6 will look even more attactive as the price and
>>
>> preciousness
>>>
>>> of IPv4 addresses increases.
>>
>> No problem, everyone tunnels v4 in v4 and the "outer" ip address is
>> your 32-bit ASN and you get an entire /0 of "legacy" ip space inside
>> your ASN. Just need to get rid of BGP and go to some sort of label
>> switching with the border routers having an ASN to upstream label table
>> and there ya go. Oh, and probably create an AA RR in DNS that is in
>> ASN:x.x.x.x format. Increase the MTU a little and whammo! There ya go!
>> Done.
>>
>> :)
>>
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