[124595] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: legacy /8
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Palmer \(NANOG Acct\))
Fri Apr 2 18:49:16 2010
From: "John Palmer \(NANOG Acct\)" <nanog2@adns.net>
To: "NANOG list" <nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 17:48:44 -0500
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On the topic of IP4 exhaustion: 1/8, 2/8 and 5/8 have all been assigned in the
last 3 months yet I don't see them being allocated out to customers (users) yet.
Is this perhaps a bit of hoarding in advance of the complete depletion of /8's?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Majdi S. Abbas" <msa@latt.net>
To: "Jeroen van Aart" <jeroen@mompl.net>
Cc: "NANOG list" <nanog@nanog.org>
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: legacy /8
> On Fri, Apr 02, 2010 at 02:01:45PM -0700, Jeroen van Aart wrote:
>> I am curious. Once we're nearing exhausting all IPv4 space will
>> there ever come a time to ask/demand/force returning all these
>> legacy /8 allocations? I think I understand the difficulty in that,
>> but then running out of IPs is also a difficult issue. :-)
>>
>> For some reason I sooner see all IPv4 space being exhausted than
>> IPv6 being actually implemented globally.
>
> Because it's no more than a delaying action. Even presuming
> you get people to cooperate (and they really, have no incentive to
> because they don't necessarily have any agreement covering the space
> with the RIRs) rather than fire up their legal department....
>
> A couple of /8s doesn't last long enough to really make a dent
> in the pain. You might buy yourself a few months at most.
>
> It might actually do more harm than good, by convincing people
> that they can still get v4 space rather than worry about what they
> are going to do in the future.
>
> --msa
>
>
