[124485] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Home CPE choice
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Marco Hogewoning)
Thu Apr 1 03:35:19 2010
From: Marco Hogewoning <marcoh@marcoh.net>
In-Reply-To: <4BB3E30D.6070604@foobar.org>
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 09:34:03 +0200
To: Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On 1 apr 2010, at 02:04, Nick Hilliard wrote:
> On 31/03/2010 23:55, Charles N Wyble wrote:
>> What good off the shelf solutions are out there? Should one buy the =
high
>> end d-link/linksys/netgear products? I've had bad experiences with =
those
>> (netgear in particular).
>=20
> Some people have said that the Fritz!box is quite good. No idea if =
it's approved for use in the US.
They have a very rich VoIP implementation and are really good for the =
less technical user. But for more eloborate setups they are a bit rigid, =
telnet to the box and you void warranty etc. Got a few hundred thousand =
in the field and most people seem to be happy with them.
A limited set of IPv6 features is available in beta for some models, =
very basic interface to support various flavours of native connectios =
and tunnels. Small firewall interface to punch some pinholes (bit buggy =
still, being worked on). Enough for your average connection demands.
As far as I know they aren't certified for US. Most of the boxes come =
with ISDN (the have german origins) and DECT base station, so next to =
the regular WiFi there is a lot of other stuff that needs changing an =
certification for the US market. My guess however is that those things =
are primairly driven by demand and if you order a truckload things can =
be fixed.
At home I run cisco, but I guess that's due to my background. It's =
stable, flexible and I'm used to the interface.
=46rom a consumer perspective I'm really impressed by the latest Draytek =
Vigor (2130n). Pretty amazing RG which has a rich and easy to use future =
set and has a full and working IPv6 box on board. Unfortunately this =
doesn't include a VoIP client or DSL interface, both are being worked on =
I was told. It's build around a linux stack so everything is there: =
routing, firewalling. Mostly via the webinterface some only via cli =
(ssh/telnet). SNMP is included.
For the DSL there is a workaround using the Vigor 120 box, which can tie =
DSL to ethernet and even is able to translate PPPoA into PPPoE. With the =
latest firmware it can also handle IPv6 on those PPP sessions. And since =
it's standard PPPoE out of the back it's also an easy fix for other RGs. =
Tested it yesterday together with an airport express and worked =
perfectly. Only problem I found was the airport seems to lack IPv6 =
support on it's PPPoE stack, which I was testing for.
Enough for the plugging of the vendors :) Shameless plug for myself:
I'm compiling a list of IPv6 ready CPE to be presented at RIPE-60, any =
hints and tips on what is out there and experiences so far are welcome =
off list. I'm about to send a simple questionair to known vendors, if =
you happen to be a CPE manufacturer and want to be included please =
contact me.
Thansk,
MarcoH=
