[124363] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Finding content in your job title
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steve Bertrand)
Wed Mar 31 00:20:44 2010
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 00:15:14 -0400
From: Steve Bertrand <steve@ibctech.ca>
To: Anton Kapela <tkapela@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <5BABD94F-5EE4-4375-9BF1-A2116F1C7896@gmail.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org >> nanog list" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On 2010.03.30 23:50, Anton Kapela wrote:
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> On Mar 30, 2010, at 11:34 PM, Jorge Amodio wrote:
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>> "The title, Engineer, and its derivatives should be reserved for those
>> individuals whose education and experience qualify them to practice in
>> a manner that protects public safety. Strict use of the title serves
>
> ...fortunately for us (and CCIE's around the globe) running the Internet doesn't involve much public trust. Does it?
>
> In a few states in the US, working for the same engineering firm for some number of years (usually 6 or more) counts similarly as passing a state-administered professional engineering exam. It would be with some significant precedent, then, that a job or other professional experience does indeed equate to state-sponsored public trust.
>
> So, back to Steve's first question:
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>> How does the ops community feel about using this designation?
>
>
> If you've been doing it for a while, and not been chased out, I would argue there is ample precedent to support don'ing the title. I guess the sticky-bits here include, potentially, a derth of colleges and graduate study calling itself "network engineering."
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> Failing that, perhaps nanog-l could take a vote:
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> Does Steve deserve the title of Network Train Driver, list?
Not acceptable. I do not want this.
I read and review messages and documents from people who have *much*
more experience than I do every single day, and whom I respect to the
n'th degree.
This isn't a vote count. I am _not_ an engineer, and do not need or
desire the title.
Thanks anyway though ;)
Steve
