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daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Babak Pasdar)
Thu Mar 25 08:27:50 2010

To: Bryan.Welch@arrisi.com
From: "Babak Pasdar" <bpasdar@batblue.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 08:30:04 -0400
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

Bryan,

We have built out our infrastructure around A10 and after doing our own =
due diligence on them, we like them for the following reasons:

1. The performance is outrageous (in a good way) in terms of:
  a. Total number of sessions supported
  b. Ramp Rate (New connections per second)
  c. Throughput, up to 37+ gig in our tests

Quite frankly A10 is the only company we found that could help us delive=
r on a secure 100Gig plus network that we designed for a client.  Their =
specs were 100Gig today with scalability to 200Gig.  The AX-5200 deliver=
ed as advertised for us.  F5 didn't even come close to scaling to these =
levels in our testing.

2. The interface is reasonably decent, but could stand some refinement. =
 The aPolicy is for the most part a one-for-one replacement of the F5 TC=
L iPolicy.  So transitioning should be pretty straight -forward.

3. The company is a good company with good support.  Lee Chen, one of th=
e founders of Foundry Networks started A10.  I went to California and me=
t with him and his engineering team to see the type of folks we would be=
 engaging with.  They were extremely pleasant to deal with, unlike a lot=
 of the other companies out there today. =20

The foundation of the system is that they came up with a process to make=
 Parallelization far more efficient than the standard high-performance O=
Ses like Linux and Unix.  This lets them throttle through scenarios that=
 bog down other systems.  We have seen first-hand how the systems perfor=
mance has addressed DNS DoS scenarios where F5 fell down on the job.=20

4. Finally, the cost is far more pleasant than the nickle and diming tha=
t F5 does for this license and that license.   This is the one area F5 s=
hould really get dinged on.  I don't at all care for the In our scenario=
 it came in at roughly 40% less than F5.

All-in-all my advice is you can't go wrong with the A10 unless there is =
some specific feature that is missing.  We have not found any for our pu=
rposes.  Quite frankly I feel that many people are unnecessarily afraid =
to migrate away from F5.  Not that F5 is a bad product or company, but c=
ompetition is good and A10 is a good competitor.   We are very pleased w=
ith our decision to go with A10.=20

I hope this is useful feedback for you.

Best Regards,

Babak

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