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Re: OBESEUS - A new type of DDOS protector

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dobbins, Roland)
Tue Mar 16 09:37:03 2010

From: "Dobbins, Roland" <rdobbins@arbor.net>
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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:35:43 +0000
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On Mar 16, 2010, at 11:30 AM, Guillaume FORTAINE wrote:

> What do you think about Obeseus ?

Flow telemetry has demonstrated its extraordinary utility to network operat=
ors worldwide over the last decade, and continued advances such as Cisco's =
Flexible NetFlow and the IETF IPFIX/PSAMP effort signify that this is the b=
road consensus of the operational community. =20

Scalability in terms of logically centralized detection/classification/trac=
eback and minimizing the insertion of additional hardware devices into the =
network should be core design principles of any operationally viable soluti=
on in this space.

Volume is only one input into an operationally-viable detection/classificat=
ion system. =20

Traceback is also very important from an operational perspective.

ASIC-based edge routers do an excellent job of mitigating simple high-pps p=
acket-flooding attacks via D/RTBH, S/RTBH and flowspec - again, the utility=
 of these techniques has been validated by the operational community.

Layer-7 attacks against various types of services/apps can achieve signific=
ant amplification effects and disproportionate impact, are increasing in fr=
equency and impact, and therefore must be addressed by any operationally vi=
able solution in this space.

I believe that an effective and operationally useful open-source solution f=
or basic DDoS detection/classification/traceback/mitigation can be implemen=
ted using existing widely-used and -understood tools/techniques as describe=
d here:

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