[123410] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: IP4 Space - the lie
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mark Andrews)
Sat Mar 6 16:42:30 2010
To: Saku Ytti <saku@ytti.fi>
From: Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org>
In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 06 Mar 2010 20:49:58 +0200."
<20100306184958.GA17785@mx.ytti.net>
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 08:41:54 +1100
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
In message <20100306184958.GA17785@mx.ytti.net>, Saku Ytti writes:
> On (2010-03-06 10:07 -0800), Cameron Byrne wrote:
>
> > Folks are risking their business and their customers if they don't
> > have an IPv6 plan, and when i say IPv6 plan i mean IPv6-only. This
> > list has already examined how polluted the remaining free IPv4 blocks
> > are ... and as others have pointed out, CGN will be an expensive and
> > poor QoE reality for those clinging to IPv4
>
> I'm personally afraid that EU+US companies may not see the risk. Majority
> of people in EU+US who want broadband and have purchase power for the
> services, should already have connectivity, as broadband penetration is
> somewhat complete.
>
> Companies offering products/services may view that implementing IPv6 will
> not bring them new business, but implementing it carries non-zero cost. And
> providing access to consumers who are not potential customers increases
> costs without increasing revenue.
Not implementing IPv6 will start to lose them business soon as they
won't be able to reach IPv6 only sites. Not quite yet but soon. While
all the services that there customers want to reach are available over
IPv4 they will be fine. Once they are not they people will start to
leave for a competitor that does offer IPv6 access.
ISP's need to be asking themselves how much business are they willing to
lose before they deploy IPv6. If they answer is "none" they should be
moving now.
> The major losers in EU+US market seem to be start-ups, who can't get
> addresses and thus have fraction of the market size giving existing
> companies unfair competitive advantage, nearly impossible to overcome.
>
> I would personally hope that EU+US would mandate that residential ISP add
> IPv6 to their subscribers by default, without possibility to opt-out in
> n years time. Hopefully n would be no more than 3.
>
> APAC and Africa surely are completely different matter.
> --
> ++ytti
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