[123226] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Alaska IXP?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jared Mauch)
Thu Mar 4 09:34:18 2010
From: Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net>
In-Reply-To: <alpine.GSO.2.00.1003040751370.9719@clifden.donelan.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 09:33:39 -0500
To: Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Mar 4, 2010, at 8:13 AM, Sean Donelan wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, Antonio Querubin wrote:
>> On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, Sean Donelan wrote:
>>=20
>>> Are there any common locations in Alaska where multiple local ISPs =
exchange traffic, either transit or peering? Or is Seattle the closest =
exchange point for Alaska ISPs?
>>=20
>> peeringdb.com lists only SIX (in Seattle) and PAIX Seattle.
>=20
> Thanks and also thanks to the other folks that replied privately. =
That matches basically what I had found, but I wanted to check.
>=20
> Transit is also ok, I'm doing the usual minimum connections/maximum =
communications in case of (earthquake, volcano, tsunomi, etc) math. Is
> there someplace in Anchorage that buying transit or peering from one =
or a few ISPs is significant enough, or is it going back to Seattle =
anyway and
> the local ISPs already have done the math.
What I've seen is that in smaller markets (in my previous life), eg: =
Michigan, even when the providers are all in the same facility they
1) Lacked understanding of traffic-patterns to understand peering =
savings
2) Lacked ability to interconnect (eg: no switch on-site, no bgp/routing =
capability)
3) CLEC or other colo provider prohibited #2
This meant traffic would regularly be diverted to Chicago or similar for =
exchange between local ISPs.
The one time I was able to pull off a local facility cross-connect, it =
was difficult to get it at a speed greater than 10megs (this was 1999 or =
so).
With the dropping metro-ethernet/ftth type equipment that can do 1G for =
"cheap", perhaps a short fiber build for x-connect would help faciltiate =
things these days. (i should model that and post the results).
- Jared=
